The title for book 7 is...

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[MakTheYak]

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

Just in case anyone didn't mention it in the other thread

Read the full article on the BBC news website here

[kbmum]

Yay, a title!  If she's willing to release that, maybe the book will come out in the coming year.

[MakTheYak]

We can only hope...

[kbmum]

Anyone want to dissect the title?

hallows:
1. To make or set apart as holy.
2. To respect or honor greatly; revere.

Hmm, "deathly hallows" sounds kind of creepy to me.

[pinksamstar]

deathly=death eeeekk!!!!


im am so stumped by this title, all the others had a lovely little ring but this one just sounds evil, and its the end and has death in the title 

[Bitsy]

My concern is that this might mean that Harry will, in fact, die in book 7.  Perhaps the "hallows" will be the place where Harry dies killing Voldemort, thus the land will become sacred, honored.  Since book one people have honored Harry Potter as the boy who did away with He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named--it wouldn't be a stretch to think that there would be a sacred area where all wizards can honor Harry forever more.   

[kbmum]

Unless it means that Harry will be honored after the death of Voldemort.

Here's more info about Hallows:

The Hallows across most legends are seen to represent the royal regalia carried by the King, or the objects sought by someone such as a 'Grail Quester' (See Grail Knights) in both ancient and modern stories.

The sacred vessels, or 'Hallows of Ireland' were believed to have been brought by the 'Tuatha de Danaan' (See Tuatha de Danaan) to Ireland and kept in the 'Crane Bag', visible at high tide only. Four people were responsible for guarding the contents, known as 'Guardians of the Hallows' : 'Manannan' (See Manannan), 'Lugh' (See Lugh), 'Cumhal' (See Cumhal), 'Fionn' (See Fionn). When it was first in Manannan's care it contained:

    Manannan's House;
    Goibniu's shirt, belt, knife and smith's hook;
    King of Lochlann's Helmet;
    King of Alba's Shears;
    A Belt made from fish skin;
    Asal's pig's bones.

Later the Tuatha de Danaan were believed to be a people who were said to have brought sacred treasures from an island near Greece to Ireland from the Otherworld (See Otherworld). There were said to be four treasures:

    1. Shining spear of Lugh (from Gorias), providing victory in any fight;
    2. Stone of Fal (from Falias), kings were crowned on this;
    3. Sword of Nuadu (from Findias), impossible to avoid being struck and wounded by its contact;
    4. Cauldron of Dagda (from Murias), of plenty. (See Dagda), (See Bran the Blessed).

The four hallows of the Tuatha de Danaan were developed in later traditions to be:

    1. The Pole of Combat;
    2. The Sword of Light;
    3. The Cauldron of Cure;
    4. The Stone of Destiny.

These have since been further developed to the four symbols of magical elements, to also be seen on Tarot packs as the four suits:

    1. The Sword;
    2. The Spear;
    3. The Cup;
    4. The Pentacle.

We can see that the sacred vessels influenced the Arthurian legends, Grail legends and the search for the hallowed objects in ancient 'Annwn' (See Annwn) also being associated with those of the Tuatha de Danaan:

    1. The Sword which is Broken;
    2. The Spear of the Dolorous Blow;
    3. The Dish (to process the Head of the Withdrawn Grail Guardian);
    4. The Grail (Sacred Chalice / Cauldron of Plenty & Inspiration).

The Spear has also been referred to as the 'Lance of Longinus', as it is said to be the one which 'Longinus', a Roman centurion, used to pierce Christ's side as He was being crucified.

The Hallows were believed to be shown to the Grail Questers whilst attending a meeting, or in some cases a feast. This meeting has been considered to be a tradition if not a ritual accompaniment to the feast, where the focus of the viewing of The Hallows was considered one to be respected. In some legends the 'Lady of the Lake' (See Lady of the Lake) is referred to as the 'Guardian of the Hallows of Kingship'.

Today The Hallows can be seen to exist in modern regalia.

    1. The Sceptre (Rod of Equity and Mercy);
    2. The Sword of State;
    3. The Ampulla of Holy Oil;
    4. The Crown.

In early Arthurian legend it was said that thirteen treasures existed in the Otherworld, and these were reputed to have been retrieved from Annwn by Arthur. These were collectively known as the 'Thirteen Treasures of Britain' (See Hallows of Britain). The story of their recovery is told in the poems of 'Taliesin' (See Taliesin).

[kbmum]

Yes, I'm double posting , but there's too much info in the last post to add this.

Someone on a TLC forum found this tidbit, which might have implications for both James and Lily, and Sirius.

Hallows - ("holy" or "holy night") the Oct. 31 Greater Sabbat, also called November Eve, the Celtic Samhain ("sow-en"); the beginning of the Celtic winter, and of the Celtic year; the beginning of the Witches' Year, when the Veil Between the Worlds grows thin and the spirits of the dead may return to Earth; the Descent of the Goddess to the Underworld; the final Harvest festival.

We know Sirius fell through the Veil and also that the Potters were killed on the night of Oct. 31 (although, that could have happened in the wee hours of Nov. 1).

[Roz]

... the beginning of the Witches' Year, when the Veil Between the Worlds grows thin and the spirits of the dead may return to Earth; the Descent of the Goddess to the Underworld; the final Harvest festival.

Well well well - so it's come to a Tolkien-esque Army of the Dead after all?

What say you?

; the final Harvest festival.

Which somehow preceeds the American harvest festival in the year...  I never quite understand why American harvest festival is so late in the year - anyone got any ideas?

We know Sirius fell through the Veil and also that the Potters were killed on the night of Oct. 31 (although, that could have happened in the wee hours of Nov. 1).

It sounds very plausible though, and intreguing.. only time will tell

[ferdinand_the_yak]

I wonder if JKR knows of all this when she plans her book titles? It would make for a fascinating research project (much more interesting than the ones I've had to do ). The veil theory and All Hallows Eve is the most exciting bit for me so far... will we see more contact between Harry and his parents/Sirius? Or perhaps even Dumbledore (if he really is dead)?

I agree with Cindy, the timing of the title release bodes well for a late 2007 book release - I can't wait!

[ECL]

interesting how deathly and hallows both have seven letters in them.  seven seems to be in a lot of places in the books, maybe a coincidence though

[allender]

Maybe we need to change Godric's Hollow to Godric's Hallow? 

[LikORish-Spider]

Remember the seven things that Voldemort is looking for? Horcruxes.
He considers them to be treasures. And they are definitly deadly.
Didn't he have to kill to make them work?
So, could these seven items be the "Deathly Hallows?
Just a thought. ---- You heard it hear first. 

[Nienna]

I wonder if JKR knows of all this when she plans her book titles? It would make for a fascinating research project (much more interesting than the ones I've had to do ). The veil theory and All Hallows Eve is the most exciting bit for me so far... will we see more contact between Harry and his parents/Sirius? Or perhaps even Dumbledore (if he really is dead)?

JKR knows exactly what she's doing when she uses all these references in her books -  she went to as much trouble when choosing the type of woods that Harry, Ron and Hermione's wands were made from remember! 
She leaves nothing to chance ...

I also believe that Harry will only be able to 'talk' to Dumbledore's portrait rather than by any other medium, although it's an interesting theory regarding the Potters & Sirius and the thinness of The Veil at Halloween.
Oh and don't forget that Hermione is studying Ancient Runes - who better to 'discover' all this wealth of information and pass it on to Harry and Ron, eh?! 

I agree with your assumptions too John ... 

[allender]

So, could these seven items be the "Deathly Hallows?
Just a thought. ---- You heard it hear first. 

I thought that the idea naturally followed kbmum's post, too. 

Y'know, with Jo's predilection to borrow from mythos, I've started looking for Horcrux clues from the list of those four!  Gryffindor's sword is back in the running.

[Nienna]

Could the basilisk have been a horcrux?
I know Tom's diary was one, but I wondered if the timing would've been right for Tom to have made another whilst still at Hogwarts?

We've no idea on what object/thing of magical value belonging to Rowena Ravenclaw might have been used either.
Anyone any thoughts/suggestions?

[Roz]

JKR knows exactly what she's doing when she uses all these references in her books.

I agree, she's a smart one and everything seems to have a hidden meaning, but at the moment it's quite hard to decipher everything without the final piece of the puzzle.

[kbmum]

According to TLC, a company that provides materials to libraries and retailers is listing the book's release date as July 31, 2007 with an estimated price of $35 US.  This has not been confirmed, but some online retailers have already begun taking pre-orders.

[Morningangel-Iola]

The Royal Mail is already organising its delivery plan.

[Roz]

LOL! I've just placed my order from Amazon:

Child edition (yak links):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000818XA0/theyakshack-21

Adult edition:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000M2DJQI/theyakshack-21

I think it will be much less than £13.99 nearer the time or else I'll cancel my order as it won't be that much in Sainsburys/Tesco etc. If it is, I'll just go and support a local book shop instead besides they tend to get cool promo items such as posh bags etc, If it's official Bloomsbury then I collect that kind of stuff too

The amazon.com site isn't taking pre-orders yet, but you can sign up for an email when they are taking pre-orders.