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« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2007, 07:55:08 PM » |
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I thought it was Voldemort ...
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« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2007, 09:00:59 PM » |
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I must admit I thought it was the Horcrux part of Voldemort's soul as well  . I assumed it was waiting there for all of the other parts to be 'killed' and then it would become whole again, but still distorted and diseased. I sort of thought if Voldemort had shown remorse this would have cured the creature with DD and allowed him to be in some way redeemed. |
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« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2007, 10:21:33 PM » |
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I think it's was a piece of Voldemort's soul. Dumbledore wouldn't have told Harry that there was nothing that could be done for it if it had been part of Harry.
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« Reply #63 on: July 28, 2007, 10:27:53 PM » |
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The small maimed creature under the chair at kings cross, after voldemort tried to kill harry in the forest, was i think that part of harry's soul that was lost when voldemort used harry's blood to rebirth himself. I thought it was emphatically stated in the book that the creature was the Horcrux Voldemort accidentally & unknowingly created when he killed Lily Potter & tried to kill Harry. There's quite a lot of description of Voldemort feeling a tearing & losing his body. |
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« Reply #64 on: July 30, 2007, 02:29:42 PM » |
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Yes, I agree, it is part of Voldemort's soul. As Tialessa said, there is a pretty fair description of this part of the soul being ripped from the rest as Voldemort loses his body.
And as kbmum said, if it was part of Harry, Dumbledore would know it could be helped, Hermione did the research on Horcruxes and said the only way to put the soul back together was extremely painful, that Voldemort would have to feel remorse, and "really feel what he had done" . Not something he would ever do, so, as Dumbledore said to Harry, that thing was "beyond either of our help" Also, doesn't Dumbledore say something to Harry like "your soul is whole and completely your own". I think I'm remembering that right.
I am halfway through the UK version to see if there are any major differences in it and the US version, so far nothing big. Do any of you have both versions? If so, have you read them both and are there any big differences?
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« Reply #65 on: July 30, 2007, 03:27:44 PM » |
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I am halfway through the UK version to see if there are any major differences in it and the US version, so far nothing big. Do any of you have both versions? If so, have you read them both and are there any big differences?
Scholastic seems to have gotten better with that. There were some big differences between the US and UK versions for the first three books, but fewer problems with the other books. I haven't picked up the UK DH book yet, but when you're done reading the UK version, Misty, please post again (or PM me) and let us know if there were any real differences.  |
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« Reply #66 on: July 30, 2007, 07:46:16 PM » |
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Has the US one got bigger print because there are supposed to be more pages.
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« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2007, 08:11:33 PM » |
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I think the US one has pictures at the beginning of the chapters.
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« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2007, 08:17:49 PM » |
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Ah yeah but is that 200 pages worth? I think thats the difference.
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« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2007, 09:28:00 PM » |
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Hello all. I was wondering if I am the only one who thinks that Harry and Voldemort are related? The Deathly Hallows were first owned by three brothers: The Peverells; The Cloak came to Harry through Ignotus 's last living relative Harry's father. It is one of the Deathly Hallows. and the Ring with the Resuurrection Stone in it came to Voldemort through Marvolo Gaunt his Grandfather. I believe that this is important, but I don't know if it could come up in maybe another book? 19 years is along time alot can happen in that time? lol
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« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2007, 09:44:04 PM » |
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Yes, you're quite right - Harry and Voldemort are distant cousins - I caught that little nugget a day or so after finishing reading (once I'd had a bit of time to digest all the little nuggets of information JKR had written.)  |
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« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2007, 11:25:56 PM » |
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What I found the most interesting about Voldemort's "Pure Blood" movement was how many half-blood & muggle-born witches & wizards there were... I just found it so odd that Voldemort who was himself not pure blood was only interested in pure blood witches & wizards...
Tom Riddle - witch mother, mundane father
Severus Snape - witch mother, mundane father
Harry Potter - wizard father, muggle-born mother
Seamus Finnegan - witch mother, mundane father
Hermione Granger - muggle-born
Dean Thomas (thanks Nienna) - thinks he's muggle born but per the HP Lexicon (JKR quote) wizard father, mundane mother
(I'd have to do research for more)
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« Reply #72 on: July 31, 2007, 12:10:00 AM » |
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Dean Thomas is another to add to your list ... |
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« Reply #73 on: July 31, 2007, 12:40:21 PM » |
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Back to the US/UK versions...
The print is a little larger in the US version, but the book is also bigger (taller). As for differences, like I said, I have not noticed anything yet other than spelling differences in these, but I think I heard somewhere that Half Blood Prince had significant differences in the US/UK versions in the chapter "The Lightning Struck Tower" I do not have the UK version, so I can't confirm.
Of course, I have heard some really silly things about differences - for instance, someone in the movie theater when I went to see Order of the Phoenix tried to tell me that all the UK versions had completely edited out Dean Thomas - that he is not in you versions at all. Of course, I asked him who Ginny was kissing in the corridor if Dean did not exist, and he had no answer for that. Why are some people determined to try to ruin HP for the rest of us?
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« Reply #74 on: July 31, 2007, 09:23:44 PM » |
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I just found it so odd that Voldemort who was himself not pure blood was only interested in pure blood witches & wizards...
When this was first revealed I immediately thought of Hitler - a short, dark haired Austrian with a disability who believed in a society made up entirely of able bodied, aryan Germans. There are quite a few tyrants throughout history who are exactly what they are trying to destroy. I am sure there is some fancy psychological term for this. What I find more fascinating is why none the pure blood wizards, who are all fully aware of Voldemort's parenting, don't say "Hang on, the Dark Lord is a half blood, lets get him" or words to that effect |
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« Reply #75 on: August 05, 2007, 09:32:58 PM » |
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Yes I think of him too whenever anyone brings this up, Voldemort is just like Hilter, 'never mind what I am'
I thought that when I saw ootp and Bellatrix calls Harry a filthy half-blood, well whats your master then. Its why I thought Snape wasn't going to be the half blood prince as I assumed he would be pureblood.
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