Prop Replicas

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[harrymad08]

hi all im new hear and no one seems to want to welcome me to the forum i feel sad that no one wants to welcome me

[harrymad08]

Hi everyone!
I am new to the forum and to posting and so will probably end up putting this mesage in the wrong place
Anyway a few of you already know me from Ebay and may have some of my prop replicas in your collections.
This is just a warning about another Ebayer who has recently been stealing other peoples work and then printing cheap copies and then selling as their own work or even describing them as genuine props from the film. He tried to buy an OWLs exam from me to sell as a real prop and then went on to try and sell my Hogwarts Bus Pass as is own work after taking an image of it from this forum. He has also stolen a Bertie Botts replica from an artist in Brazil and has been selling it as his own work. So beware....  

i heard from the brazil artist that the person did not steal the box,
they bought the template from the artist in brazil.
and he apparantly was glad to share his design with the other person
 as the artist in brazil told me himself i have spoke to him about your concerns in your first post

[Nienna]

hi all im new hear and no one seems to want to welcome me to the forum i feel sad that no one wants to welcome me

Sincere apologies m'dear, we're forgetting our manners - a big welcome to the Forum harrymad08 and good luck with your prop-making!
Welcome wishes to MuggleMum and not forgetting Tymex/Thomas too!
Thomas - your DADA and Quibbler replicas are very good, thank you so much for sharing them with us. 

I think it's wonderful that we have so many talented people on here and I'm sure the rest of us would LOVE to see how you're getting on with each of your projects. 

On a more serious note however ... before you post any more photos of you hard work on here, it might be a good idea to use photo-editing software to put a watermark on them, so any of the non-Forum members (or lurkers) who trawl through all the posts aren't able to 'lift' these pictures and claim them as their own.
Just a thought ...

And again ... a very warm welcome to you all! 

[kbmum]

i heard from the brazil artist that the person did not steal the box,
they bought the template from the artist in brazil.
and he apparantly was glad to share his design with the other person
 as the artist in brazil told me himself i have spoke to him about your concerns in your first post

That is incorrect.  The Brazilian seller clearly states in his auctions that his Bertie Botts box was copied and is being sold by another eBay seller. 

I don't usually put on my mod hat, but this time, I am.  There is apparently a problem on eBay with one or more sellers who use other people's HP-inspired designs and props to produce knockoffs.  Anyone who is interested in purchasing prop replicas or (what they believe to be) actual props should do some research before bidding or BINning.  Any Shack member who steals someone else's designs and/or photos (particularly those posted on the Shack) will not be allowed to advertise their auctions in Diagon Alley and will end up banned from this site.  Also be forewarned that eBay does cancel auctions when the seller uses pictures taken from other auctions or sources.  The pictures used on eBay are supposed to be taken by the seller of the actual product that is being sold.

If any member wishes to post photos of the props they've created, please be advised that this is a public forum which can be viewed by ANYONE, even those who have not registered on the site.  Photos that show in-depth details could be used by others to produce their own props, which they could then try to sell.

It should also be noted that Warner Bros. owns the rights to all images in the HP movies.  Anyone who sells items based on props in the movies could be violating Warner Bros. copyrights.  I know for a fact that eBay has canceled such auctions in the past, with the threat that WB could institgate legal action against the seller.  WB has a team of lawyers and vast financial resources; most eBay sellers do not.

[harrymad08]

i heard from the brazil artist that the person did not steal the box,
they bought the template from the artist in brazil.
and he apparantly was glad to share his design with the other person
 as the artist in brazil told me himself i have spoke to him about your concerns in your first post

That is incorrect.  The Brazilian seller clearly states in his auctions that his Bertie Botts box was copied and is being sold by another eBay seller. 

I don't usually put on my mod hat, but this time, I am.  There is apparently a problem on eBay with one or more sellers who use other people's HP-inspired designs and props to produce knockoffs.  Anyone who is interested in purchasing prop replicas or (what they believe to be) actual props should do some research before bidding or BINning.  Any Shack member who steals someone else's designs and/or photos (particularly those posted on the Shack) will not be allowed to advertise their auctions in Diagon Alley and will end up banned from this site.  Also be forewarned that eBay does cancel auctions when the seller uses pictures taken from other auctions or sources.  The pictures used on eBay are supposed to be taken by the seller of the actual product that is being sold.

If any member wishes to post photos of the props they've created, please be advised that this is a public forum which can be viewed by ANYONE, even those who have not registered on the site.  Photos that show in-depth details could be used by others to produce their own props, which they could then try to sell.

It should also be noted that Warner Bros. owns the rights to all images in the HP movies.  Anyone who sells items based on props in the movies could be violating Warner Bros. copyrights.  I know for a fact that eBay has canceled such auctions in the past, with the threat that WB could institgate legal action against the seller.  WB has a team of lawyers and vast financial resources; most eBay sellers do not.

kbmum you said

"The Brazilian seller clearly states in his auctions that his Bertie Botts box was copied and is being sold by another eBay seller"

im a lead to believe there is also lots of resources out there like images ect that will help potential enthusiasts
make there own box so therfore the brazilian cannot really say it was copied as there are many different ways in which people can make these boxes
 so therefore that seller should not really be stating in  there auctions ect that the item was copied because any one can make it if they know how and there is many different ways to make as i have made a bertie box myself

the earlier message from mugglemum is a little unfair as she has mentioned about the fact that the item was stolen ect but is this not potentially damaging to other sellers who may want to sell a bertie botts box in the future expecially if lots of people see the message mugglemum wrote on here then other ebay sellers may not be able to sell there replicas because of what she has said. i do agree with what everyone is saying though

i hope you understand where i am coming from kbmum im do agree what you are all saying but it wont be nice for anyone else if they want to sell there items that they have made that mugglemum mentioned especially the bertie botts box if people see this thread they wont buy any props at all

[kbmum]

With everyone working off of the same reference material, yes, the props will be similar.  The particular Brazilian seller, though, alleges that someone made an exact replica of his artwork.  I've seen images of the Bertie Botts box, but if people want to make a full-size replica, they have to draw the faces and other graphics themselves.  The various artists/prop makers will have minor differences on the final product.

I said that people need to do their own research before bidding or BINning.  That holds true for just about anything anyone might want to buy.  The only sellers who are at a disadvantage with an informed buyer are the ones who aren't conducting their business on the up-and-up.

I'll even go out on a limb here with my personal belief that maybe people shouldn't be buying items that infringe on Warner Bros.' and J.K. Rowling's copyrights.

[Tymex]

Hi everyone,
Thank you very much for your opinion about my prop Nienna.
A member of the YackShack has already question me for sharing my props to him.
I think this member would reproduce cheap props to resell it on eBay.
The Watermark is a very good idea !

Best Regards,

Thomas.

[harrymad08]

hi i think you have the wrong idea about me tymex i simply just want to see some close ups of the top part of your quibbler as i am in the process of finishing my own so please dont slate me on this forum im just another prop maker like yourself  every one else in this thread has been more than happy to share parts of there props with others and i certainly dont want you saying bad things about me.
 im simply a prop maker myself and dont like that you have put i would produce cheap copies to sell on ebay im genuine
 im simply want close ups of the top banner in the quibbler thats all.
 i have nearly finished my own quibbler

[harrymad08]

i also agree with the watermark

[kbmum]

hi i think you have the wrong idea about me tymex i simply just want to see some close ups of the top part of your quibbler as i am in the process of finishing my own so please dont slate me on this forum im just another prop maker like yourself  every one else in this thread has been more than happy to share parts of there props with others and i certainly dont want you saying bad things about me.
 im simply a prop maker myself and dont like that you have put i would produce cheap copies to sell on ebay im genuine
 im simply want close ups of the top banner in the quibbler thats all.
 i have nearly finished my own quibbler

Not once has anyone mentioned names.  You are not the only member of this board who has requested that people share pictures of their handmade props.

It's time for the nonsense to stop, or I'll shut down the thread.

[harrymad08]

hi i think you have the wrong idea about me tymex i simply just want to see some close ups of the top part of your quibbler as i am in the process of finishing my own so please dont slate me on this forum im just another prop maker like yourself  every one else in this thread has been more than happy to share parts of there props with others and i certainly dont want you saying bad things about me.
 im simply a prop maker myself and dont like that you have put i would produce cheap copies to sell on ebay im genuine
 im simply want close ups of the top banner in the quibbler thats all.
 i have nearly finished my own quibbler

Not once has anyone mentioned names.  You are not the only member of this board who has requested that people share pictures of their handmade props.

It's time for the nonsense to stop, or I'll shut down the thread.

hi kbmum

i know im not the only member who has requested that people share pictures of their handmade props.

but i only asked if they would share theres with me and they slate me in the process which is not fare

thats all

[Tymex]

Please, do not shut down this thread, we are very happy to talk about replicas, and props.
We can stop speaking about cheap replicas sold on eBay, but please do not shut down it, this thread is very useful !

Best Regards,


Thomas.

[Marcuss]

Hi, I followed the discussion on this thread and we all know that some black sheeps are making money with the works of others . But is it possible to put all informations together so everyone can create their own replicas. I was thinking about informations about the cliparts used by the propmaster or which fonts they are using and so on. I think this would be a very valuable ressource for all of us. What are you thinking?

[kbmum]

MuggleNet has downloadable fonts.

http://www.mugglenet.com/downloads/fonts/

The galleries at the Leaky Cauldron have a variety of prop and costume pictures from all of the movies.  You'll have to navigate around the galleries to find what you want, though.  Some of the best pictures were taken at traveling exhibits.

http://gallery.the-leaky-cauldron.org/category/110

I've yet to find any official clipart.  Warner Bros. has its own art department to produce the artwork, and I can't imagine the company would freely give it out for other people to use.

[Marcuss]

Hi kbmum, yes I saw those usual Harry Potter fonts but I thought about those used in the Daily Prophets and other paper props. Some of them like Fette Fraktur, Blackcastle and Formal Text Hand are available online. The propmaster used the extensive dover clipart collection but I haven't found out which one exactly. If we all put our energy in it we can find out which ressources the art department are using.

[MuggleMum]

Hi kbmum, yes I saw those usual Harry Potter fonts but I thought about those used in the Daily Prophets and other paper props. Some of them like Fette Fraktur, Blackcastle and Formal Text Hand are available online. The propmaster used the extensive dover clipart collection but I haven't found out which one exactly. If we all put our energy in it we can find out which ressources the art department are using.

Hi Marcuss.
I spent ages and ages looking for fonts that may have been used for the OOTP Daily Prophet title to no avail! In the end I had to draw my heading letter by letter.
There are fonts available for the text used for the OWL's , progress reports etc. The decrees are quite fun to do as there are often 2 or more fonts being used in any one sentance or sometimes in one word!
I think the Dover clipart may have been used by the art dept to but unless you want to go down the very costly route of buying them all then drawing them yourself may be a better and less costly option.

[Bitsy]

Wasn't there a UK company that designed the Daily Prophet headings for the first two or three films? I thought I remembered reading an article talking about the company and that they offered "Wizard Packages" that you could buy with some of the actual fonts included.


 

[MuggleMum]

Hi Bitsy!
Yes there is a company that supplied the fonts called Crazy Diamond and the fonts are called Wizardings and is priced at £30.
http://www.crazydiamond.co.uk/wizardings/index.html

If you trawl the internet long enough you can usually find similar fonts for free

[harrymad08]

hi everyone yes the fonts are freely available if you look hard enough i used the same style fonts myself

but as im not putting much work into in now days

i am looking for a replica of the daily prophet though so i f anyone can help me i would really appreciate it


and thanks for the welcome nienna

[MuggleMum]

Which exact fonts did you use for your replicas then Harrymad08? Are they easy to find?