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« on: August 13, 2008, 05:13:05 PM »

Harry potter chocolate frog cards
Larry G Haynes
7/8/2008

Summary of harry potter chocolate frog card issues---uk issues and asian issues

UK frog cards-summary

The UK chocolate frog cards evidently had 3 distinct issues first issue. Set of 20 different cards with a single row of trademarks on the back
Second issue.  Set of 11 different cards with a double row of trademarks on the back
Third issue.  Set of 31 cards -- all the same as 1st and 2nd issues -- all with a double row of trademarks on the back. It is possible that only the 1st issue of 20 was reissued with a double row of trademarks.
The 2nd issue of 11 do not exist with a single row of trademarks
The third issue evidently has two colours---a pinkish purple colour and a bluish purple colour the uk issues include 31 different name cards. 20 of the name cards have both a single trademark row and a double trademark row version. Thus, excluding colour varieties, there are 51 collectible cards.

Asian -- or also called Aussie--- frog cards (with Chinese characters on back)-summary

The Asian cards can easily be distinguished from the UK cards by the Chinese characters present on the back of the cards. The Asian chocolate frog cards evidently only had 2 distinct issues all card names have the same frontal images as their UK issue counterparts
First issue. Set of 20 different cards with a single row of trademarks on the back this first issue had two distinct colours – a pinkish purple and a blackish / bluish purple colour
Second issue.  Set of 10 different cards with a double row of trademarks on the back the second issue did not have the Madam Malkin card that was included in the 11 UK cards.
The Asian issues include 30 different name cards. The UK issues have 31 different name cards.

UK frog cards
First UK issue-----20 different cards----all with single trademark row     
Which printers? Which company issuers?
Trademark is even with the border on the back and says "CE tm & C  2001 Warner Bros"
Colour is pinkish purple
Set of 20 different names:
Centaur
Diagon Alley
Fluffy
Gringotts bank
Harry Potter
Hedwig
Hermione Granger
Hogwarts
Invisibility cloak
Mirror of Erisid
Norbert
Quidditch
The Remembrall
Ron flying
Ron Weasley
Rubeus Hagrid
Scabbers
Severus Snape
The sorting hat
The troll

UK frog cards  (continued)
Second uk issue-----11 different cards----all have a double row of trademarks. Both rows end in periods and there is no mention of "2001" in the upper row.
Which printers? Which company issuers?
Top trademark is even with the border on the back and says "CE tm  &  C Warner Bros."
Second row trademark is below the top trademark on the back and says "publishing rights  (c) JK Rowling."
Colour is pinkish purple
Set of 11 different names------no repeats of the 1st issue set of 20 names:
Christmas at Hogwarts
Devils snare
Fat lady portrait---somehow rarer than other 10
The great hall
Gringotts bank vault
Halloween
Madam Malkin
Ollivander’s wand shop
Platform 9 3/4
Professor McGonagall
Winged keys

First and second UK issues comprise 31 different names--20 with single row trademark and 11 with double row trademark the two sets are all the same pinkish purple colour the Fat Lady portrait card in the second issue  is scarcer  than the other 10 cards for some reason the Madam Malkin card in the 2nd issue  did not get issued with the Asian 2nd issue set of frog cards---thus the Asian (or sometimes called Aussie ) 2nd issue set has only 10 different names. The Asian sets, therefore, have 30 different name cards.

Third UK issue-----all 20 cards of the 1st issue were re-issued with a double row of  trademarks. Possibly, all 11 of the 2nd issue, which already have a double row  of trademarks, were re-issued also.
Total set would include 31 cards.
There are 2 colours for all 31 cards, the original pinkish purple and a newer bluish purple.
Third UK issue type 1-----31 different cards  with a  double row of  trademarks.  Pinkish purple colour
Third UK issue type 2----31 different cards  with a  double row of  trademarks.  Bluish purple colour trademark rows are identical to those in the 2nd UK set.

Asian--or also called Aussie---with Chinese characters on back
First Asian issue ---type a ----- 20 different cards with a  single trademark row. Pinkish purple colour-same names and pictures as UK series.
First Asian issue ---type b ----- 20 different cards with a  single trademark row. Blackish/bluish purple colour-same names  and pictures as type a
Two distinct colours
The name cards and the pictures on the front are all the same as the UK series.
Names on the back include Chinese characters---this clearly distinguishes this series from the UK  series
Trademark is even with the border on the back and says "CE tm & C 2001 Warner Bros"
Set of 20 different names --same 20 as the UK series :
Centaur
Diagon Alley
Fluffy
Gringotts bank
Harry Potter
Hedwig
Hermione Granger
Hogwarts
Invisibility cloak
Mirror of Erisid
Norbert
Quidditch
The Remembrall
Ron flying
Ron Weasley
Rubeus Hagrid
Scabbers
Severus Snape
The sorting hat
The troll

Asian--or also called Aussie---with Chinese characters on back (continued)
Second Asian issue-----10 different cards----all have a double row of  trademarks. Both rows end in periods and there is no "2001" in the top row.
The Asian issue has the same card names as the UK 2nd issue, except that it does not include the Madam Malkin card that was in the UK 2nd issue.
Top trademark is even with the border on the back and says "CE tm &  C Warner Bros."
Second row trademark is below the top trademark on the back and says "publishing rights (c)  JK Rowling."
Basically only one colour --- bluish purple
Set of 10 different names------no repeats of the 1st issue set of 20 names:
Christmas at Hogwarts
Devils snare
Fat Lady portrait --- not as scarce a card as with the UK series card
The Great Hall
Gringotts bank vault
Halloween
Ollivander’s wand shop
Platform 9 3/4
Professor McGonagall
Winged keys
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 10:25:48 AM »

Hi, I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to say as I can't read your post. Turn off the caps lock please Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 12:11:08 PM »

I copied it into Word and applied "Change Case".  Wink

Larry, can I post these with the checklists (giving you credit, of course)? I had lists for the two U.S. Chocolate Frogs Wizards series, but it's tough to track down details for things that aren't carried in the local shops.

Thanks for the info!
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 07:15:58 PM »

Thanks Larry - awesome collection of info - Jeff - if it's up on your site can you provide a link?

Anyone got any comments to add or any info that they have collected/collated to inform this before it goes into the trading card guide?
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 08:59:52 PM »

I know someone who has complete sets of the various frog cards.  I'll ask her to take a look at it, too. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 09:13:53 PM »

Thanks Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 02:44:56 AM »

Larry's lists are complete. Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2008, 08:51:52 AM »

Thanks Larry - awesome collection of info - Jeff - if it's up on your site can you provide a link?

Anyone got any comments to add or any info that they have collected/collated to inform this before it goes into the trading card guide?
Links below, and I'm providing a bonus list for the Japanese Chocolate Frogs cards. It's interesting that the title printed on one of them is "Fat Lady Po" (instead of portrait), which makes me wonder if she is related to Kung Fu Panda.  Wink  And since Harry is British, I chose to use the Empire's spelling for "colour."

"Research" seems to indicate that the Fat Lady Portrait, the short-print of the U.K. second series, might not have been distributed in the third U.K. release. Most people seem to think that this "series" was only 30 cards (not counting colour variants). Can anybody confirm or deny?

The Japanese edition had 40 cards; 1-20 are the same images as U.K. series 1, 21-30 are the same images as U.K. series 2 (without Madame Malkin), and 31-40 are new additions.

Thanks, all! And especially to Larry. I could reconstruct the list from other sources, but he made it a lot easier and well-documented!

U.K. Edition
Asian Edition
Japan Edition
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2008, 02:46:39 AM »

to allender: thanks,yes you can post.i wanted to get the info to other people. i tried to get set of japanese ,but so far ,no success at all. also i dont mind if you use colour!

to ferdinand_the_yak:sorry about all caps ,as well as confusing format. i was only capable of copying this from my excel spread sheet.then i could not find a way to edit the result.this is my first posting and i'm not sure how to do anything---including this response.

to kbmum and roz: thanks for your help.

larry.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2008, 05:56:55 AM »

Hey Larry - no problem at all - as long as your shift key is working fine Wink

I hope you don't mind if I do what the illustrious Mr Allender has suggested and reformat the list to make it a bit easier on the eye.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2008, 12:31:20 PM »

I hope you don't mind if I do what the illustrious Mr Allender has suggested and reformat the list to make it a bit easier on the eye.
While I tried to be respectful of the British-Empire origin of the subject matter, you didn't really need to change "color" to "colour" when you reformatted the post.   Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2008, 12:59:57 PM »

I hope you don't mind if I do what the illustrious Mr Allender has suggested and reformat the list to make it a bit easier on the eye.
While I tried to be respectful of the British-Empire origin of the subject matter, you didn't really need to change "color" to "colour" when you reformatted the post.   Tongue

Tell that to my (Australian English) version of Microsoft Word which having a seizure with "color" Wink
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