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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 01:45:51 AM »

i have not read the books, but the last television movie trailer i saw here in the us was pretty interesting. it appears to me to be based on greek mythology--medusa and a hydra were in the trailer. anyway, i am considering buying the 5 books, just to see what the hype is about.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 01:51:39 AM »

I think the choice of director came after they decided to film books, because he had a track record in the genre.  Wink

There were a lot of people originally who thought that Harry Potter was a rip-off of common fantasy themes, but the depth and the characters turned it into something different.

I've read the Olympians books, and they're a good read. One of the 'fun' parts is trying to remember what I learned about Greek mythology many years ago, and pick up on hints. An unusual feature of this series is that the author, Rick Riordan, is also a middle-school teacher, and you can download a teacher's guide on how to use the books to teach mythology. One of the classroom projects is to make your own trading cards!

The books are well-written enough that they can appeal to adults, but they're accessible as "juvenile" coming-of-age novels for the intended 12-15-year-old audience. Beyond that, and the fact that there's "magic" involved, I don't see any hint of trying to parallel the Potter books. Fantasy fiction is popular for the age group, and indeed some adults sneer at it as kid's stuff.

One issue with the movie was that they made the cast older, aiming for the 17-year-old demographic. (Of course, even more people would comment on 12-year-olds starting out at the "camp," instead of the "school" of Hogwarts.) I'm not sure how that's going to work, or how much else they might do to make it look either too much like or too much unlike HP. We were going to see the flick today, but decided to avoid crowds who don't know how to drive or park in the snow.

"Half-blood" is used in a much different sense, because many of the Greek gods had a habit of mating with mortals. One of the [intended]  themes was how kids cope in one-parent families where the "dad" has left his presents and then moved on. I'd call a group of 2+1 heroes a standard arrangement, but if I had to pick equivalents in the Potter world, it would be closer to Harry+Ginny+Neville. And I wouldn't call Pierce Brosnan a casting idea for a Dumbledore equivalent.

It was JKR who chose names from greek mythology for a lot of the wizarding characters, so that was closer to a convention and not a key part of the plot. Percy in Lightning Thief is a nickname for Perseus. And I'd blame the familiar castle look on the filmmakers -- the architecture doesn't really fit with camp "houses" for the descendents of Greek gods; I'd picture something closer to the Parthenon than Hogwarts.

I don't know how it will come across in film, but the plot felt more like Narnia than Potter. But Narnia doesn't have a single central character, which is almost a must in books aimed at teenagers who are feeling out-of-place, lonely, and confused.

Some say that movie viewers are going to get really confused when Clash of the Titans comes out next month, with a plot blurb "Perseus Sets Off On A Perilous Journey Deep Into Forbidden Worlds. Battling Unholy Demons And Fearsome Beasts, He Will Only Survive If He Can Accept His Power As A God, Defy His Fate And Create His Own Destiny." Mads Mikkelsen is Draco [!] in that one. And because Hades is the closest to the Voldemort adversary for both the Olympians series and the Titans flick, of course the Titans remake has him played by Ralph Fiennes.  Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 06:08:29 AM »

I plan on picking these books up as soon as my Nook arrives but I have no plans to see the movie just yet as I've heard from really big fans of the series that the movie is going to be disappointing.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 01:55:14 PM »

I saw the movie last night, and I prefer the books.  Wink

The flick had its high points, but I doubt that it will bring in new readers in droves like Sorcerer's Stone did for the Potter franchise. The product is probably charming enough to get the public to watch sequels, but maybe more for fantasy special effects than for love of the characters.

Most of the plot elements were there. We saw the main plot elements and characterizations, but it seemed shallow in motivation and setup. It felt like the movie was an adaptation of a video game, almost strictly "linear."

Cast highlights were Brandon Jackson as Grover, Pierce Brosnan as Chiron, and Rosario Dawson as Persephone. (I'm getting an appreciation for the versatility of Brosnan as an actor. After all, he survived Mars Attacks!). But I wasn't moved to care about the Percy and Annabeth characters. I'll reserve judgment until the DVD because this might have been because the writing couldn't adapt the issues seen by 12-year-olds (book) well to 17-year-olds (movie).

And to be fair to the actress, they cast Annabeth as a dark-haired Xena because Columbus thought other potential actresses were too slender, and I missed the skinny blonde kid portrayed in the books. We didn't see two of the great comic/plot characters of the book, hog-riding Aries and his warrior daughter Clarice. Seems they might have tried to combine the Clarice character into Annabeth, but I hope that both characters show up in the sequel.

The camp didn't look at all like Hogwarts. The screen shot that looked like a castle must have been Hades' home in the underworld.

You can't include the full plot development from a book in a 2-hour movie, but I think I would have preferred fewer "memorable SFX moments from the book." Some people will be frustrated by the fact that the Greek gods looked wooden or stupid, when one of the real points of the books was that the gods are isolated, living in the past, and mostly clueless. We missed some of the constant squabbling among the immortals and how this carried down to the competition among the "clans" of their kids at Camp Half-Blood.

So I'd give it a 3.5 out of 5. Some high points and possibilities, but I won't be losing sleep anticipating the sequels.

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