Deathly Hallows Part 2 scans/comments

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[kbmum]

Please post your scans and comments here.

[rns91294]

You know, with all the autos in this set, and filmcards, I am SHOCKED to see all the duplicates in the two cases that are posted so far.

[LikORish-Spider]

I found another box that did not yield a base set either. It was missing card #4 Ron.
Another box was missing card #17. Luckily, I had dupes of each from other boxes.

Out of the nine boxes that I opened I collated 18 complete sets of the 1-54 cards.

Can't wait to see if a PROP & COSTUME printing comes out... I doubt it will happen.

[rns91294]

What do you mean John, you don't think they will have a prop/costume set? You think this is the last one? That would break my heart.

[allender]

Since there aren't any costume or prop cards, I probably won't scan the "ordinary" either.

Observations: It should really be unnecessary, with 20 autograph cards and 10 per case, to have three duplicates (which seems to be about the norm). I couldn't get a complete set of the four box-toppers. But otherwise, I got the advertised number of inserts (including an autograph in the Prize-card box). Base card collation wasn't great per box, but I ended up with 23 complete sets, which isn't terrible. I had at least one complete set per box. People who open boxes for store sales should shuffle the packs, because (except for the last box that had the Prize card), the inserts were in exactly the same packs according to their position in the boxes.

Sorry, LORS -- I got many extras of #04 (35 total in the case) and #17 (38 in the case).

[LikORish-Spider]

Autograph collation was/is terrible. I got 3 Georgina Leonidas and 2 John Hurt.
(See the breakdown)
The box with the YAAW card had no autograph card.
Your autographs were mostly PA type. Bad.


Why would they produce another set with props and costumes? What would they do for base cards... another set of 54???

[rns91294]

According to Artbox, they are doing a prop/costume set. My guess is that it will have about 54 cards. In fact, I think the reason this set has less is because of the way they are doing things. You have no idea how upset I would be if they didn't do the prop/costume set, as the props are the things I want the most.

I only got 2 boxes. I will be furious if they have the same auto in them. There should be no reason for that.

[kbmum]

If Artbox had originally planned to do a regular set and an update set, they would have the images to make a second base set.  Besides, they could do a set without base cards.  Some manufacturers make premium packs with inserts and chase cards.  They're a lot less expensive, too.

[allender]

Well, after viewing the base set, there ought to be plenty of images to choose from. There were huge gaps in the plot, and a large number of slightly different angles on the same scene. I suspected that WB didn't give them access to much of anything before the movie released. It's obvious that there would have been profit potential from SDCC exclusives, so the lack thereof makes me wonder whether there's any energy left at Artbox for trading cards. At least I will always have the photo of me and Kay.

Has anybody heard 'official' word on what autos are Ultra, Rare, and Common? I suspect that my duped Lewis and Leonidas are commons, and the Davis is not going to be high-value even if it's Rare because he's signed so often. I have some hope only if some of the puzzle autos are rare-ish, but that would sort have defeated the purpose for Artbox. Even my Prize Card wasn't in the top tier.

The sum of the numbers for CFC cards is 6400, so it looks like they had been hoping for enough presales to justify a 5000-box print run even fairly late in the game.

But hey, even if the license with WB ends soon, there's still a need to finish the Literary set ...

[LikORish-Spider]

If Artbox had originally planned to do a regular set and an update set, they would have the images to make a second base set.  Besides, they could do a set without base cards.  Some manufacturers make premium packs with inserts and chase cards.  They're a lot less expensive, too.

Of course, the big word here is "if", but who knows what ARTBOX is doing.
The Pentagon should hire them for security.
Less expensive, like the LOST RELICS only $600.00 or so for a box.
Then the cards sell for $10.00 in the secondary market except for the odd auto or prop.
And today they have gone down now that all the hoo-haa is over.

[kbmum]

That's an interesting observation about the filmcards, Jeff.  The original info we received was five filmcards per case, but now we're seeing six.

A long time ago, I asked Kay about the literary art set.  She said they didn't receive approval to finish it.

John, I've purchased premium packs for other sets that cost around $20 to $30 per pack.

[rns91294]

Cindy, I think John is talking about a box though. $20-$30 a pack, but how many packs per box?

If Artbox did cut the print run, which is why we are seeing more filmcards per run, then I bet they held back the extra autos (like full puzzle sets) so they have something to give out at SDCC 2012. 

[LikORish-Spider]

Yes, I was talking about a box. I bought a box of LOST RELICS. It had 15 packs.
Can't really complain, I got a complete set, except the PROMOS, of course.
Naturally, being the variant hound that I am (Who, ME?) I bought some on ebay.
Even had some dupes to sell... which by the way still aren't sold. LOST has LOST its appeal, apparently

[LikORish-Spider]

According to Artbox, they are doing a prop/costume set. My guess is that it will have about 54 cards. In fact, I think the reason this set has less is because of the way they are doing things. You have no idea how upset I would be if they didn't do the prop/costume set, as the props are the things I want the most.

I only got 2 boxes. I will be furious if they have the same auto in them. There should be no reason for that.

I'd like to see a set with PROPS and COSTUMES, too, if they don't have powdered glass and tableclothes and double Dailey Prophets.
I'm still upset about no Helena Ravenclaw autograph, she would make a great case incentive if they did another case.

[allender]

With some of the "premium" sets, where there are only chase cards or they are the only real draw, the terminology of "pack" and "box" and "case" becomes less helpful. Some packs contain a sketch card or several chase cards and one or a few base cards, and they are wholesaled in what can be called either a box or a case. Others like recent Breygent sets come in a "box" that has a complete base set plus the premium chase that the fans are going for, but for them it's the moral equivalent of a "pack."

Somehow for me the process of opening packs and assembling base sets is still part of the tradition. Of course it doesn't make much economic sense, but it *feels* like you're doing more. I find that I tend to pick up just a base or mini-master set and give a pass to the premium chase.

And then they come up with the hybrids, where the base cards are numbered to 250 or 300. I think we're in for even more experiments as the hobby market evolves!

[allender]

The sum of the numbers for CFC cards is 3840, so it looks like they had been hoping for enough presales to justify a 5000-box print run even fairly late in the game.

I mistyped previously, which made it tough to see the point! There are 6 per case or 2400 in boxes, so that means there are 60% more CFC cards than the ones put in boxes. This was about the same as TDH1 and HBPU, but about double of what was usual for earlier sets. I theorized that the high recent numbers were based on hopes to have bigger print runs, but it's also possible that changes in manufacturering meant that they had more filmcards spoiled in production. But prop cards had a 60% overage for TDH1 and they used to be at about 30% too.

When you're winding down on your license, I wonder what you'd do with 1440 unspoiled extras. The reason I've been watching the count on 'overproduction' is to gauge how many items might show up later, one way or another, to dilute the value of the cards we purchased from pack distribution. We recently saw the fire sale of Inkworks' accumulated inventory of extras through Razor, but Artbox isn't going bankrupt any time soon. Licensing arrangements for what a card company can do with leftovers after the license ends are usually kept secret, but some companies have been unable to honor redemptions. I don't have any inside information, but if Artbox had a legal requirement to stop distributing things after January 01, 2012, I think we would have seen more goodie bags or mystery packs offered already.

It looks like SDCC exclusive sets that numbered to about 200 or above are showing up with the TDH2 prize cards and in goodie bags, so if you missed out the first time, there's still hope.

[Kelly]

I would also be terribly upset if they don't do a set with costumes and props.  Costumes are my thing.  I don't collect the autos.

[LikORish-Spider]

Here's a link to a WINNER card (Not mine.):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARRY-POTTER-DEATHLY-HALLOWS-2-WINNER-Card-/150655957787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2313cb7b1b

It's for a Hobby Box of HP7. Is that a DH1 box?  If so, why would anyone pay this amount when they are on ebay now for much less and then have to redeem it to boot?

[Scifi Cards]

Here's a link to a WINNER card (Not mine.):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARRY-POTTER-DEATHLY-HALLOWS-2-WINNER-Card-/150655957787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2313cb7b1b

It's for a Hobby Box of HP7. Is that a DH1 box?  If so, why would anyone pay this amount when they are on ebay now for much less and then have to redeem it to boot?

Crazy, most definitely.  Barrington is probably trying to find those collectors trying to find different redemption cards to collect and not redeem.  The card itself may indeed be worth more than the prize to some collectors.

Ed

[Scifi Cards]

Just noticed something looking at the scan...

The Winner cards expire January 1, 2012.  Don't the redemptions usually have a 'live' period longer than 4.5 months???

Four things have me thinking HP is done and over for Arbox:

• Redemptions expire 1/1/2012
  
• Nothing new at SDCC, just cleaning house from earlier shows
  
  • Prop and Costume set coming out at Christmas, just before the end of the year.
    
  • No redemptions other than the winner cards in DH2
  
  I was skeptical, but the circumstantial evidence is pretty convincing.
  
  Ed